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Hello,

You have been re-adding unsourced content to pages such as Saran district even after the edits have been reverted. You are also recreating deleted pages like Bhatkeshri Estate without addressing the issues of unsourced and unreliable material.

If you wish to add any content, please support it with reliable sources and do not use fabricated sources such as non-existent book citing yourself as the author. Dokania (talk) 05:04, 8 October 2026 (IST)Reply

Subject / Reply regarding Source Verification and Historical Representation
Hello,
Thank you for your feedback regarding this entry. I would like to bring forward a few critical points concerning the sources and the historical representation of this subject:
  • Validity of Offline Sources: A book does not lose its validity as a historical source simply because it is not available online. A vast and authentic portion of history remains preserved exclusively in offline libraries, regional archives, and physical manuscripts. Knowledge and history cannot be limited strictly to the digital space.
  • Verification of Physical Books: Even if a book lacks an online footprint, it can still be cross-verified. By providing the exact book title, author, year of publication, publisher, and specific page numbers, any independent researcher can verify the claims in a physical library.
  • Representation of Middle-Class History: The history and contributions of a community or the middle class should not be marginalized or dismissed simply because it is not widely popularized in mainstream digital media. Every community deserves to have its documented history represented fairly.
  • The Need for Awareness Campaigns: Regarding the involvement of initiatives like 'oldhistoryknowncorporation.pvt.ltd', private and organizational campaigns often become necessary precisely because regional history is frequently overlooked by mainstream institutions, the state government of Bihar, or the Indian government. These campaigns should be viewed as positive efforts to protect and promote marginalized histories before they are lost.
I request you to consider these verifiable offline citations so that this crucial aspect of history can be documented with neutrality and completeness.
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Dr.Aviraj (talk) 13:46, 13 October 2026 (IST)Reply
Hello Dr. Aviraj, It is good to see your interest in documenting regional history and preserving information that may not be readily available online. Books and other offline historical sources can certainly be valuable, provided the sources are authentic and the information can be independently verified.
I would suggest that you create the proposed articles in the Draft namespace first. This will give you sufficient time to develop the content, add proper references, and address any concerns regarding sourcing and neutrality before submitting the articles for review.
For books that are not available online, one possible approach would be to scan the relevant pages, subject to copyright and access permissions, and upload them to a suitable public archival platform, such as the Internet Archive (which operates the Wayback Machine). You can then use the archived link along with the complete book details, including the title, author, publisher, year of publication, and relevant page numbers. This will make it easier for other editors to verify the references and assess the content.
The intention should be to ensure that valuable historical information is documented in a way that meets the requirements of the encyclopaedia. If the sources are reliable and the claims are properly supported, it will help strengthen the articles and make the review process smoother.
I would encourage you to continue contributing your research and knowledge. Developing the articles in draft form and working constructively with other editors would be a good way forward. I hope to see your contributions help preserve and document more of our regional history. Thank you, and best wishes for your contributions. WikiDwarf (talk) 21:39, 13 October 2026 (IST)Reply
Dear WikiDwarf,
Thank you very much for your encouraging guidance and constructive suggestions regarding the documentation of this regional history. I would like to clarify a few key points based on your feedback and share some new verified findings from my ongoing research:
Copyright Constraints: I do not hold the copyrights for the referenced books. Due to these legal limitations, I cannot scan and upload their pages to the Internet Archive or any other public digital repositories.
Physical Availability: I accessed and studied these historical texts physically at the library of Rajendra College, Chapra, where they are preserved for academic research.
Online Verifiability: While the full content isn't digitized, the book "The Royal History of Bhatkeshri Estate" is officially listed on Open Library, which independently verifies its existence and publication details.
Author's Background & Context: The author of the text belongs to the Rajput community. Historically, when a writer from the contemporary prominent or ruling social class documents an estate or institution, it carries significant historical weight, reflecting how these socio-political structures were officially recorded from within the established system of that era.
New Primary Research Document: During my recent archival research, I discovered an authentic, historical government document. It is an official revenue/land-reform notice linked to the Bihar Land Reforms Rules, 1951 from the Zamindari abolition period (1950–1952). It explicitly mentions specific land particulars, boundaries (chouhaddi), and Khesra Nos. 362 and 633.
Structured Analysis/Explanation: I have compiled a comprehensive structural analysis and explanation of this document into a detailed report. This report outlines the proprietary rights (swatva), legal procedures under Section 8 of the Land Reforms Act, and the administrative framework that connected the family estate to the post-independence transition.
Request for Restoration:
If these details and the archival evidence clarify the historical validity and significance of this subject, I kindly request you to restore the page. This will help me save valuable time and allow me to move forward with researching other important historical topics.
Thank you for your time and understanding.
Best regards,
Dr.Aviraj Dr.Aviraj (talk) 21:53, 13 October 2026 (IST)Reply
It's clear that The estate is a family matter of @Dr.Aviraj and he's trying to get it on Wikipedia for fame. The non-existent book The royal history of Bhatkeshari Estate is said to ne authored by @Dr.Aviraj himself. While a notice can validate the existence of the estate, it neither validates notability nor the evidential history of the subject. He's just trying to waste our time. Dokania😎(📩) 06:18, 14 October 2026 (IST)Reply
Please do not be confused; merely sharing a similar first name does not make the author and the user the same person. The author of the book The Royal History of Bhatkeshri Estate is Dr. Aviraj Singh Rajput, whereas my name is Dr. Aviraj Giri. We are two entirely different individuals.
My efforts to bring this subject online are driven by the fact that this is my first research project. As a researcher, my primary goal is to preserve and document overlooked regional history for the public benefit, rather than seeking personal fame or vanity.
Regarding the historical evidence, I possess authentic primary documents proving the existence and historical background of this estate. For instance, I have a surviving portion of the official government notice sent to the Zamindar under the Bihar Land Reforms Rules. This historical document clearly displays the official 'Notice Form' (सूचना का प्रपत्र), instructions for filing claims through an authorized agent (अभिकर्ता), references to Section 8 of the Act, and specific land details at the bottom—including boundaries (chouhaddi) and Khesra numbers 362 and 633.
If required to verify the authenticity and historical accuracy of this subject via primary sources, I am fully prepared to upload and share the photograph of this original notice here. This is a factual historical record, not a non-existent topic. I kindly request you to review this based strictly on the facts presented. Dr.Aviraj (talk) 11:51, 14 October 2026 (IST)Reply
This user is a serious offender. He is actively adding fabricated, non-existent books to Open Library. One book added under the same name Aviraj Singh 400 (did the 1940's author reincarnate for adding his own book to open library? no dr. aviraj is aviraj singh rajput and he's raushan raj as well) has an AI-generated cover and table of contents. Another book has been added by Raushan Raj, who is most probably an alternate account of the same user or someone closely connected to him. This is suggested by the Wikipedia activity of Raushan Raj, who was blocked on Wikipedia for promoting the Bhatkeshari Estate.
It is highly improbable that two different individuals would independently fabricate sources and attempt to introduce them on Wikipedia. Therefore, it is reasonable to conclude that both accounts belong to the same person.
Fabricating sources is a serious issue, and I demand that this user be blocked immediately. Dokania😎(📩) 14:43, 14 October 2026 (IST)Reply
Mr. Dokania,
I strongly object to your fabricated allegations and your malicious attempt to label me a "serious offender." Mud-slinging at a researcher without understanding the ground reality is highly condemnable. Let me lay down the facts strictly and clearly for you:
  1. Utilizing Technology Was a Necessity, Not Deception: Your childish attempt to dismiss the work as 'AI-generated' overlooks the fact that the original historical book was in an extremely torn, fragile, and dilapidated condition. Due to the decaying pages and the absence of an active copyright, AI technology was utilized to digitally re-create and preserve that invaluable history and make its Table of Contents readable. Digitally preserving history is not a crime. It absolutely does not mean that the underlying history is fake.
  2. Why the Pin-Drop Silence on Genuine Government Proofs?: Leaving the book aside, why are you deliberately evading the original government document (Notice Form / सूचना का प्रपत्र) that I obtained directly from the true descendants of the Bhatkeshari Estate and presented here? That torn, authentic government paper explicitly records the boundaries (Chouhaddi) and Khesra numbers 362 and 633. Why are you completely silent in the face of such irrefutable Primary Evidence? Do you have any concrete baseline to challenge this genuine government record?
  3. Why This Conspiracy to Suppress Local History?: Let me ask you a direct and sharp question—Should local history be completely erased just because it wasn't published by big mainstream publishers? I have invested more than a year of intensive research to bring this forgotten history to light. I have personally traveled to Bhatkeshari to inspect the physical evidence. If your prejudice hasn't completely blinded you, open Google Maps and look up 'Zamindari Mansion.' Are that physical mansion, its live photographs, and the user reviews all just a fictional story?
The truth is that you have absolutely no logical counter to the official government documents and physical Google Maps evidence I provided. Consequently, you have resorted to petty politics by demanding to block me. Stop labeling my honest effort to salvage decaying history as 'fabrication' and start talking on the basis of hard facts.
Dr. Aviraj
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@Bharatwiki Socrates @Editorial Oversight Please see this. He has accepted using AI book cover and adding the title on Open Library by the Aviraj Singh (While earlier claiming to be Aviraj Giri and not Aviraj Singh). It's highly unethical to do fabrication of this level and we shouldn't tolerate this. Dokania😎(📩) 15:15, 14 October 2026 (IST)Reply
@Dokania: Stop hiding behind your blatant bias, malicious subversion, and pathetic attempts to silence a researcher! By what authority or shred of intellectual integrity are you choosing to completely blind yourself to this irrefutable, primary government document?
Your persistent refusal to acknowledge this physical, historical record is no longer just ignorance—it is deliberate, malicious erasure. This torn, authentic notice explicitly details the legal framework of the Bihar Land Reforms Rules, Section 8, alongside the undeniable boundary descriptions (Chouhaddi) and Khesra numbers 362 and 633.
You have absolutely zero logical or factual counter-arguments to this primary evidence, which is why you are desperately resorting to toxic mud-slinging, character assassination, and crying for blocks. If you possess even a fraction of academic honesty or moral courage, challenge this official government record with actual counter-evidence instead of weaponizing petty wiki-politics to bury the truth. Your desperate attempts to ignore hard, undeniable facts expose nothing but your own profound intellectual cowardice!
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Dr.Aviraj (talk) 15:24, 14 October 2026 (IST)Reply
I would like to request both of you to keep the discussion civil and avoid personal accusations. I understand that there are concerns regarding the sources and their authenticity, while Dr. Aviraj wishes to provide evidence supporting the historical claims. We can address these concerns more constructively by focusing on verifiable evidence rather than making assumptions about each other's intentions.
Dr. Aviraj, could you please share scanned copies or photographs of the relevant pages of the book with me privately, or email them to info@bharatpedia.org? The material will be kept confidential, will not be published publicly, and will be deleted after review. It will only be used to assess the source and its relevance to the discussion.
I hope we can resolve this matter calmly and collaboratively, with the focus on verifiability and the best interests of Bharatpedia. Thank you both for your cooperation. WikiDwarf (talk) 11:06, 15 October 2026 (IST)Reply
I think you have misunderstood him. He has already accepted that the book covers and tables of contents on Open Library are AI-generated. He has also accepted that he published them under the name Aviraj Singh, while earlier claiming to be a different person named Aviraj Giri and not Aviraj Singh. He has never claimed to possess evidence supporting the historical claims; he merely asserts that he has a government notice which validates the existence of the estate.
I have never challenged the existence of the estate. What I have challenged is the notability of the subject and the historical claims made about it. In my view, the manipulation and fabrication of sources to support an article is a serious offence and demands strict action.
In any case, I am no longer interested in this debate, as it is being treated lightly even after he has accepted having done so. You may handle it as you deem fit. Dokania😎(📩) 11:32, 15 October 2026 (IST)Reply
Mr. Dokania,
Your fabricated, malicious allegations and pathetic attempts to defame a researcher only expose your desperation and intellectual bankruptcy. Stop hiding behind petty wiki-politics and mud-slinging, and face these irrefutable facts with whatever shred of intellectual honesty you have left:
Your Absurd and Contradictory Rant on Notability: When you yourself explicitly admit in your own statements that the Bhatkeshri Estate existed, questioning its notability is the absolute pinnacle of foolishness! How can a recognized historical Zamindari estate recorded in land revenue archives completely lack historical significance? Does history conform to your personal prejudices? Accepting its physical existence while questioning its historical worth proves you are not here to verify facts, but are driven by pure malice to suppress legitimate research.
Utilizing Technology Was a Necessity, Not a Deception: Stop crying foul over the 'AI-generated' cover on Open Library. The original historical book is in an extremely fragile, torn, and dilapidated condition, and its original cover was completely destroyed by time. Digitally preserving decaying history and recreating illegible pages to make them readable is not a crime—it is preservation. Using technology to salvage a crumbling record absolutely does not mean the underlying history is fake.
The Truth Behind the Name (Strict Rule of Chapra Professors & Librarians): As for your desperate attempt to spread misinformation about the book being listed under 'Aviraj Singh Rajput' on Open Library, let me correct your blatant ignorance. This was not my personal whim. It was the strict mandate and rule laid down by the professors and the librarian in Chapra. They explicitly stated that if this historical book was to be indexed and listed in the online database, it must be registered under the name of its original author, otherwise it would be rejected out of hand. Twisting a mandatory administrative procedure into a 'fabrication' plot highlights nothing but your own malicious agenda.
Why the Pin-Drop Silence on Genuine Government Proofs?: Leaving the book aside, why are you deliberately blinding yourself to the original government document (Notice Form / सूचना का प्रपत्र) that I obtained directly from the true descendants of the Bhatkeshri Estate? That authentic, historical government paper explicitly records Khesra Nos. 362 and 633 along with the Chouhaddi (boundaries tracking East and South). Why are you completely silent in the face of this irrefutable Primary Evidence? Do you possess even a single legal or factual basis to challenge this authentic government record?
The Legal Fact of Section 8, Bihar Land Reforms Rules: The document you are so desperately trying to dismiss explicitly cites Section 8 of the Bihar Land Reforms Rules, 1951. This statutory rule is absolute proof: if a claimant failed to assert their rights before the competent authority within the stipulated 15-day notice period, the property legally vested in the Government Treasury. This legal mechanism stands as undeniable proof of the vast administrative and legal reality of the Bhatkeshri Estate.
Your Conspiracy to Suppress Local History Will Fail: Should local history be completely erased just because it doesn't fit into your narrow, biased narrative? I have invested over a year of intensive field research to bring this forgotten history to light. If your prejudice hasn't completely blinded you, open Google Maps right now and look up 'Zamindari Mansion'. Is that physical mansion, its live photographs, and the user reviews all just a fictional story created out of thin air?
The truth is glaringly obvious: you have absolutely no logical counter to official government documents, revenue records, and physical evidence. Consequently, you have resorted to low-level threats of demanding to block me. Stop labeling an honest effort to salvage decaying history as 'fabrication' and start talking on the basis of hard, unassailable facts! Dr.Aviraj (talk) 12:35, 15 October 2026 (IST)Reply
Dear WikiDwarf,
Thank you very much for your constructive approach and for maintaining a balanced perspective on this matter. In accordance with your helpful suggestion, I am sharing the authentic government document (Notice Form) by email at [email protected].
I must emphasize that the document I am sharing today is the most significant and irrefutable proof of the existence of the Bhatkeshri Estate. Under Section 8 of the Land Reforms Rules, 1951, this specific notice form was issued only to a select few prominent Zamindars of the time to declare their ancestral lands and assert their proprietary claims. The issuance of such a letter directly by the District Magistrate (DM) to an estate is a matter of profound administrative weight.
To verify its historical uniqueness, I conducted intensive field research. I visited the Manjhi Raj Family and the Goldinganj Estate, both of whom confirmed that no such notice was ever issued to them by the administration. Conversely, when I approached the prestigious and expansive Hathwa Raj Family, they confirmed that this exact type of notice was indeed issued to them. This historical comparative fact undeniably demonstrates that the Bhatkeshri Estate was as structurally vast, influential, and powerful in its region as the Hathwa Raj during that era.
All the essential historical markers and crucial details are clearly visible in this document, validating its authenticity:
  • The Legal Fact of Section 8: The form explicitly cites Section 8 of the Bihar Land Reforms Rules. This statutory provision mandated that if a party failed to present their claims before the competent authority within the stipulated 15-day period, the property would legally vest in the Government Treasury. This underscores the comprehensive legal and administrative reality of the estate.
  • Revenue Records and Land Identification: The lower section of the document clearly records Khesra Nos. 362 and 633 along with the explicit Chouhaddi (demarcations tracking East and South). This confirms its standing as a legitimate, verified revenue record.
Regarding the original pages of the book, they are currently preserved in Chapra due to the highly fragile state of the volume. I plan to travel there within the next 1 to 2 days. However, I kindly request you to understand my constraints: under the strict administrative rules of the repository, taking photographs of rare historical books is strictly prohibited. Because of this strict regulation, I will only be able to discreetly manage and share 1 or 2 crucial photographs with you. I trust you will understand this constraint, which is standard for protecting delicate historical assets.
Clarification on Open Library and the Book's Condition:
I would also like to bring to your attention that the original historical book is in an extremely fragile and dilapidated condition, which caused its original cover to perish over time. Technical assistance was utilized purely to digitally preserve this history. Furthermore, regarding the listing on Open Library, it was a strict mandate by the professors and the librarian in Chapra that the book could only be indexed under the name of its original author, otherwise it would not be accepted. This was entirely a standard administrative requirement.
I am fully confident that an objective review of these primary sources, coupled with the official documents issued by the District Magistrate, will clear all doubts regarding the historical notability of the Bhatkeshri Estate.
Thank you once again for your cooperative and professional support.
Sincerely,
Dr. Aviraj
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Dr.Aviraj (talk) 12:50, 15 October 2026 (IST)Reply

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Dr.Aviraj/sandbox

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User subpages can't be deleted for recreation of deleted materials. Dokania😎(📩) 10:24, 16 October 2026 (IST)Reply

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


The page Draft:Dr.Aviraj/sandbox has been nominated for speedy deletion (repost). If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Bharatpedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here.

Dokania😎(📩) 20:35, 15 October 2026 (IST)Reply
Slapping a 'repost' speedy deletion tag on this page without a single shred of actual historical investigation or document verification is a display of absolute administrative recklessness and incompetence. Bhatkeshri Estate is an undeniable, foundational, and massive historical reality of this region—not a fictional fairy tale, and certainly not a promotional gimmick. To dismiss the existence of an entire historic Zamindari estate with a single click is nothing short of a blatant insult to regional history.
The primary academic evidence is securely preserved within the restricted archives of the library at Rajendra College, Chapra. As an ethical and responsible researcher, I am bound by their strict institutional regulations which completely prohibit the photography and digitization of these fragile, ancient books. I will absolutely not violate the legal rules of an educational institution just to satisfy your superficial and lazy online verification demands. I have poured over a year of grueling, intensive field research and sleepless nights into unearthing this history, and I will not allow your hasty ignorance to erase it in a second.
If it is evidence you demand, then hear this clearly: the official government document issued directly to the Zamindar during the Zamindari Abolition is safely in my physical possession as irrefutable primary proof. A copy of this definitive government record has already been formally submitted to Senior Administrator @wikidwarf, and an active, official review process is currently underway between us. Furthermore, the undeniable physical anchors stand tall on the ground—the region’s primary crossroads is still named after the Bhatkeshri Zamindar, and the massive historic Zamindar Mansion still stands in the village as a living monument to this heritage.
When a verified government document is already undergoing a formal administrative review by another capable administrator, your sudden interference to push a deletion tag is a gross violation of procedure, an abuse of power, and completely out of line.
You are hereby requested in the strongest possible terms to check your unwarranted haste, withdraw this malicious nomination immediately, and back off from obstructing an ongoing official review. ---- Dr.Aviraj (talk) 23:17, 15 October 2026 (IST)Reply
@Dokania User subpages can’t be deleted under CSD, except upon request from the author. In rare cases, subpages may also be deleted if they meet CSD G10 (attack pages), CSD G11 (unambiguous advertising), CSD G12 (blatant copyright infringement), or CSD U5 (blatant policy violations/misuse of Bharatpedia). Beyond these, I don’t see any other applicable cases. 🍁Bharatwiki Socrates🍁(📩) 23:32, 15 October 2026 (IST)Reply
Is it so? It was deleted for me on Wikipedia once for recreation of deleted material Dokania😎(📩) 05:19, 16 October 2026 (IST)Reply
And you're on Bharatpedia, we don't care about other encyclopedia incidents, don't cite them. We aren't aggresive. User subpages can't be deleted like this, I explained above the cases where it is possible to delete user subpages and here none are fulfilling. 🍁Bharatwiki Socrates🍁(📩) 06:27, 16 October 2026 (IST)Reply
Can a user draftpage become stale after 6 months? Dokania😎(📩) 06:49, 16 October 2026 (IST)Reply
Yes, but this isn't draft, it start with Username/Subpage_name, so it is a subpage[1]. 🍁Bharatwiki Socrates🍁(📩) 06:55, 16 October 2026 (IST)Reply
so userpages can remain indefinitely on Bharatpedia or it can become stale? Dokania😎(📩) 07:08, 16 October 2026 (IST)Reply
Yes. Userpage and UserSubpages are protected when the user is deceased......Once an editor's passing is confirmed, an administrator will fully protect the main User page (User:Example). This locks the page permanently, meaning it can no longer be edited by the general I.P. or standard accounts. It is done primarily to shield the page from internet trolls and vandalism. User subpages (e.g., User:Example/Sandbox or draft essays) are generally fully protected alongside the main user page to preserve the user's unfinished work exactly as they left it. 🍁Bharatwiki Socrates🍁(📩) 10:04, 16 October 2026 (IST)Reply
Dokania, the subpage you wanted to delete - User:Dr.Aviraj/sandbox, I reviewed the content, it doesn’t fall under CSD G10 (attack pages), CSD G11 (unambiguous advertising), CSD G12 (blatant copyright infringement), or CSD U5 (misuse of Bharatpedia). Therefore, it can’t be deleted under normal csd circumstances. However, if the author requests CSD for their own subpage, then it will be deleted. 🍁Bharatwiki Socrates🍁(📩) 10:13, 16 October 2026 (IST)Reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.