Do not revert edits or create hoax pages
Hello,
You have been re-adding unsourced content to pages such as Saran district even after the edits have been reverted. You are also recreating deleted pages like Bhatkeshri Estate without addressing the issues of unsourced and unreliable material.
If you wish to add any content, please support it with reliable sources and do not use fabricated sources such as non-existent book citing yourself as the author. Dokania (talk) 05:04, 8 October 2026 (IST)
- Subject / Reply regarding Source Verification and Historical Representation
- Hello,
- Thank you for your feedback regarding this entry. I would like to bring forward a few critical points concerning the sources and the historical representation of this subject:
- Validity of Offline Sources: A book does not lose its validity as a historical source simply because it is not available online. A vast and authentic portion of history remains preserved exclusively in offline libraries, regional archives, and physical manuscripts. Knowledge and history cannot be limited strictly to the digital space.
- Verification of Physical Books: Even if a book lacks an online footprint, it can still be cross-verified. By providing the exact book title, author, year of publication, publisher, and specific page numbers, any independent researcher can verify the claims in a physical library.
- Representation of Middle-Class History: The history and contributions of a community or the middle class should not be marginalized or dismissed simply because it is not widely popularized in mainstream digital media. Every community deserves to have its documented history represented fairly.
- The Need for Awareness Campaigns: Regarding the involvement of initiatives like 'oldhistoryknowncorporation.pvt.ltd', private and organizational campaigns often become necessary precisely because regional history is frequently overlooked by mainstream institutions, the state government of Bihar, or the Indian government. These campaigns should be viewed as positive efforts to protect and promote marginalized histories before they are lost.
- I request you to consider these verifiable offline citations so that this crucial aspect of history can be documented with neutrality and completeness.
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- Dr.Aviraj (talk) 13:46, 13 October 2026 (IST)
- Hello Dr. Aviraj, It is good to see your interest in documenting regional history and preserving information that may not be readily available online. Books and other offline historical sources can certainly be valuable, provided the sources are authentic and the information can be independently verified.
- I would suggest that you create the proposed articles in the Draft namespace first. This will give you sufficient time to develop the content, add proper references, and address any concerns regarding sourcing and neutrality before submitting the articles for review.
- For books that are not available online, one possible approach would be to scan the relevant pages, subject to copyright and access permissions, and upload them to a suitable public archival platform, such as the Internet Archive (which operates the Wayback Machine). You can then use the archived link along with the complete book details, including the title, author, publisher, year of publication, and relevant page numbers. This will make it easier for other editors to verify the references and assess the content.
- The intention should be to ensure that valuable historical information is documented in a way that meets the requirements of the encyclopaedia. If the sources are reliable and the claims are properly supported, it will help strengthen the articles and make the review process smoother.
- I would encourage you to continue contributing your research and knowledge. Developing the articles in draft form and working constructively with other editors would be a good way forward. I hope to see your contributions help preserve and document more of our regional history. Thank you, and best wishes for your contributions. WikiDwarf (talk) 21:39, 13 October 2026 (IST)
- Dear WikiDwarf,
- Thank you very much for your encouraging guidance and constructive suggestions regarding the documentation of this regional history. I would like to clarify a few key points based on your feedback and share some new verified findings from my ongoing research:
- Copyright Constraints: I do not hold the copyrights for the referenced books. Due to these legal limitations, I cannot scan and upload their pages to the Internet Archive or any other public digital repositories.
- Physical Availability: I accessed and studied these historical texts physically at the library of Rajendra College, Chapra, where they are preserved for academic research.
- Online Verifiability: While the full content isn't digitized, the book "The Royal History of Bhatkeshri Estate" is officially listed on Open Library, which independently verifies its existence and publication details.
- Author's Background & Context: The author of the text belongs to the Rajput community. Historically, when a writer from the contemporary prominent or ruling social class documents an estate or institution, it carries significant historical weight, reflecting how these socio-political structures were officially recorded from within the established system of that era.
- New Primary Research Document: During my recent archival research, I discovered an authentic, historical government document. It is an official revenue/land-reform notice linked to the Bihar Land Reforms Rules, 1951 from the Zamindari abolition period (1950–1952). It explicitly mentions specific land particulars, boundaries (chouhaddi), and Khesra Nos. 362 and 633.
- Structured Analysis/Explanation: I have compiled a comprehensive structural analysis and explanation of this document into a detailed report. This report outlines the proprietary rights (swatva), legal procedures under Section 8 of the Land Reforms Act, and the administrative framework that connected the family estate to the post-independence transition.
- Request for Restoration:
- If these details and the archival evidence clarify the historical validity and significance of this subject, I kindly request you to restore the page. This will help me save valuable time and allow me to move forward with researching other important historical topics.
- Thank you for your time and understanding.
- Best regards,
- Dr.Aviraj Dr.Aviraj (talk) 21:53, 13 October 2026 (IST)
- It's clear that The estate is a family matter of @Dr.Aviraj and he's trying to get it on Wikipedia for fame. The non-existent book The royal history of Bhatkeshari Estate is said to ne authored by @Dr.Aviraj himself. While a notice can validate the existence of the estate, it neither validates notability nor the evidential history of the subject. He's just trying to waste our time. Dokania😎(📩) 06:18, 14 October 2026 (IST)
- Please do not be confused; merely sharing a similar first name does not make the author and the user the same person. The author of the book The Royal History of Bhatkeshri Estate is Dr. Aviraj Singh Rajput, whereas my name is Dr. Aviraj Giri. We are two entirely different individuals.
- My efforts to bring this subject online are driven by the fact that this is my first research project. As a researcher, my primary goal is to preserve and document overlooked regional history for the public benefit, rather than seeking personal fame or vanity.
- Regarding the historical evidence, I possess authentic primary documents proving the existence and historical background of this estate. For instance, I have a surviving portion of the official government notice sent to the Zamindar under the Bihar Land Reforms Rules. This historical document clearly displays the official 'Notice Form' (सूचना का प्रपत्र), instructions for filing claims through an authorized agent (अभिकर्ता), references to Section 8 of the Act, and specific land details at the bottom—including boundaries (chouhaddi) and Khesra numbers 362 and 633.
- If required to verify the authenticity and historical accuracy of this subject via primary sources, I am fully prepared to upload and share the photograph of this original notice here. This is a factual historical record, not a non-existent topic. I kindly request you to review this based strictly on the facts presented. Dr.Aviraj (talk) 11:51, 14 October 2026 (IST)
- This user is a serious offender. He is actively adding fabricated, non-existent books to Open Library. One book added under the same name Aviraj Singh 400 (did the 1940's author reincarnate for adding his own book to open library? no dr. aviraj is aviraj singh rajput and he's raushan raj as well) has an AI-generated cover and table of contents. Another book has been added by Raushan Raj, who is most probably an alternate account of the same user or someone closely connected to him. This is suggested by the Wikipedia activity of Raushan Raj, who was blocked on Wikipedia for promoting the Bhatkeshari Estate.
- It is highly improbable that two different individuals would independently fabricate sources and attempt to introduce them on Wikipedia. Therefore, it is reasonable to conclude that both accounts belong to the same person.
- Fabricating sources is a serious issue, and I demand that this user be blocked immediately. Dokania😎(📩) 14:43, 14 October 2026 (IST)
- Mr. Dokania,
- I strongly object to your fabricated allegations and your malicious attempt to label me a "serious offender." Mud-slinging at a researcher without understanding the ground reality is highly condemnable. Let me lay down the facts strictly and clearly for you:
- Utilizing Technology Was a Necessity, Not Deception: Your childish attempt to dismiss the work as 'AI-generated' overlooks the fact that the original historical book was in an extremely torn, fragile, and dilapidated condition. Due to the decaying pages and the absence of an active copyright, AI technology was utilized to digitally re-create and preserve that invaluable history and make its Table of Contents readable. Digitally preserving history is not a crime. It absolutely does not mean that the underlying history is fake.
- Why the Pin-Drop Silence on Genuine Government Proofs?: Leaving the book aside, why are you deliberately evading the original government document (Notice Form / सूचना का प्रपत्र) that I obtained directly from the true descendants of the Bhatkeshari Estate and presented here? That torn, authentic government paper explicitly records the boundaries (Chouhaddi) and Khesra numbers 362 and 633. Why are you completely silent in the face of such irrefutable Primary Evidence? Do you have any concrete baseline to challenge this genuine government record?
- Why This Conspiracy to Suppress Local History?: Let me ask you a direct and sharp question—Should local history be completely erased just because it wasn't published by big mainstream publishers? I have invested more than a year of intensive research to bring this forgotten history to light. I have personally traveled to Bhatkeshari to inspect the physical evidence. If your prejudice hasn't completely blinded you, open Google Maps and look up 'Zamindari Mansion.' Are that physical mansion, its live photographs, and the user reviews all just a fictional story?
- The truth is that you have absolutely no logical counter to the official government documents and physical Google Maps evidence I provided. Consequently, you have resorted to petty politics by demanding to block me. Stop labeling my honest effort to salvage decaying history as 'fabrication' and start talking on the basis of hard facts.
- Dr. Aviraj
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