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	~~== Nomination of [[:Syed Hasan Imam Rizvi Zangipuri]] for deletion ==~~
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	<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">[[File:Ambox warning orange.svg\|48px\|alt=\|link=]]</div>A discussion is taking place as to whether the article '''[[:Syed Hasan Imam Rizvi Zangipuri]]''' is suitable for inclusion in Bharatpedia according to [[Bharatpedia:List of policies and guidelines\|Bharatpedia's policies and guidelines]] or whether it should be [[Bharatpedia:Deletion policy\|deleted]].

	The article will be discussed at [[Bharatpedia:Articles for deletion/Syed Hasan Imam Rizvi Zangipuri]] until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

	Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
	<!-- Template:Afd notice --></div> [[User:Editorial Oversight\|<span style="color:#996600">Editorial Oversight</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Editorial Oversight\|<span style="color:brown">(Talk with me)</span>]]</sup> 21:36, 13 November 2026 (IST)

	~~:Thanks and I appreciate your Efforts my friend!~~
	~~:the Article relies on Following sources-~~
	:Arash Mehrdad Farzan an Iranian Researcher's research Paper "An Indian-Origin Ayatollah: The First Indian Dean in the Hawza of Qom and His Recognition as a Mujtahid by Eight Grand Ayatollahs (1999)" 9 page significant coverage Research Paper by an Independent Author with DOI.
	:Hassan Al- Musawi's 2022 book [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL62675026M/Contemporary_Shia_Religious_Leadership_in_the_Indian_Diaspora ''Contemporary Shia Religious Leadership in the Indian Diaspora'']. Published in 2 Iraqi Cities, Najaf and Karbala, by Dar al-Thaqalayn Publications. where subject is mentioned independently and briefly on pp. Unit 7, Allamah Maulana Syed Hasan Imam, Page 49 to Page 57. Open Library ID [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL62675026M 62675026M].
	~~:Daily Urdu Newspaper The Inquilab, which was established in 1938 even before independence, not only covers Subject 4 times in different articles~~
	:Matthias Falkenberger a German Engineer's book in 2026 [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL62675024M/The_Family_of_Masters ''The Family of Masters'']. published in Frankfurt am Main, [[Germany]]: by Falkenberger Verlag. Subject is mentioned at pp. Chapter no 12- Syed Hasan Imam Rizvi Zangipuri, Page 70 to Page 110. Open Library ID [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL62675024M 62675024M].
	:Maimuna Adabeyo, Nigerian Researcher's 2008 research paper- [https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.24040626 Ayatollah Syed Hasan Imam Rizvi: Religious Leadership and the Institutional Structure of Hawzah-e-Ilmiya Sahibe Zamaan in Qom, Iran]. is also Independent with DOI.
	:Maulana Syed Ahmed Afghanistani a teacher in Iran and locally known Cleric's 1995 book. [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL62675031M/Qom_Ke_Ayyam ''Qom Ke Ayyam'']. published in Qom, Iran and later even published in Dasht-e Barchi, District 13, Kabul, Afghanistan: Original Publisher: Qom Publications Place of Publication: Qom, Iran Year of Original Publication: 1995 Republished by: Zarr Press Place of Republishing: Dasht-e Barchi, District 13, Kabul, Afghanistan Year of Republishing: 1997. pp. Page 5-6. Open Library ID [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL62675031M 62675031M], Independent Book again.
	:David Michael Cohen's 2024 book [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL62675030M/Religious_Authority_and_Social_Change_among_Twelver_Shia_Communities ''Religious Authority and Social Change among Twelver Shia Communities'']. Published in New York, United States by Meridian Scholarly Publications. Covers Subject in pp. Ayatollah Syed Hasan Imam Rizvi, Page 109 to Page 130. Open Library ID [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL62675030M 62675030M].
	:Syed Abbas Naqvi relative of known cleric Syed Zameer Akhtar Naqvi's 2023. [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL62675025M/Ulama_of_the_Indian_Subcontinent_Biographical_Profiles_and_Intellectual_Traditions ''Ulama of the Indian Subcontinent: Biographical Profiles and Intellectual Traditions'']. published in Karachi, Pakistan by Maktaba-e-Tahqiq, Pakistan. pp. Section 19, covers subject in Naqeeb-ul-Millat Ayatollah Syed Hasan Imam Rizvi, Page 127 to Page 149. Open Library ID [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL62675025M 62675025M].
	:Dr Robert Levesque an American Professor's more than 500 pages book discussing Indian Muslim scholars, 2026 [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL62675032M/Indian_Muslim_Legends ''Indian Muslim Legends: A Comprehensive Historical Encyclopedia of Muslim scholars, Sufis, poets, philosophers, educators and reformers of Indian Sub continent'']. published in Fremont, California, United States, by RL Publishing, USA. covers subject significanly pp. Chapter No 73- Syed Hasan Imam Rizvi, Page 464 to Page 472. :[https://doi.org/10.5281%2Fzenodo.23338154 DOI]. Open Library ID [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL62675032M 62675032M].
	:Moreover Syed Mehdi Jafri in 2023 wrote a whole book of subject's sermons compilation titled- [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL62675029M/Mimbar-e-Mudallal ''Mimbar-e-Mudallal: Sermons and Intellectual Contributions of Syed Hasan Imam Rizvi'']. published in Karachi, Pakistan by Idara-e-Ma'arif Publications. Open Library ID [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL62675029M 62675029M].
	:My Friend and a Good contributor of Bharatpedia Can You explain me that these are NOT INDEPENDENT OR RELAIBLE??? [[User:Shah Syed Muhammad Ali\|Shah Syed Muhammad Ali]] ([[User talk:Shah Syed Muhammad Ali#top\|talk]]) 22:32, 13 November 2026 (IST)
	::First of all, please avoid using AI-generated replies or providing AI-generated sources. Before questioning the deletion nomination, I request that you independently cross-check all the sources. Several of the provided links appear to be inaccessible, including the Open Library references, as shown in my [https://www.pasteboard.co/IeJiDkxMYTXO.jpg screenshot].
	~~::Please verify whether these books and research papers actually exist and whether their publication details, authorship and contents can be independently confirmed.~~
	::More importantly, the article still does not demonstrate compliance with Bharatpedia's General Notability Guidelines (GNG). A long list of references does not automatically establish notability. The sources must provide significant coverage of the subject in reliable, independent secondary publications.
	::Please establish this through verifiable evidence rather than simply listing references. My nomination is based on the article's failure to demonstrate notability through reliable, independently verifiable sources. [[User:Editorial Oversight\|<span style="color:#996600">Editorial Oversight</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Editorial Oversight\|<span style="color:brown">(Talk with me)</span>]]</sup> 22:47, 13 November 2026 (IST)
	~~:Thanks again my friend and I even removed titles and promotional texts from page.~~
	:guide me what to do next and I humbly request you that if Possible please remove Afd tag [[User:Shah Syed Muhammad Ali\|Shah Syed Muhammad Ali]] ([[User talk:Shah Syed Muhammad Ali#top\|talk]]) 22:41, 13 November 2026 (IST)

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		{{Clear}}
		== Nomination of [[:Syed Hasan Imam Rizvi Zangipuri]] for deletion ==
		<div class="afd-notice">
		<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">[[File:Ambox warning orange.svg\|48px\|alt=\|link=]]</div>A discussion is taking place as to whether the article '''[[:Syed Hasan Imam Rizvi Zangipuri]]''' is suitable for inclusion in Bharatpedia according to [[Bharatpedia:List of policies and guidelines\|Bharatpedia's policies and guidelines]] or whether it should be [[Bharatpedia:Deletion policy\|deleted]].

		The article will be discussed at [[Bharatpedia:Articles for deletion/Syed Hasan Imam Rizvi Zangipuri]] until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

		Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
		<!-- Template:Afd notice --></div> [[User:Editorial Oversight\|<span style="color:#996600">Editorial Oversight</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Editorial Oversight\|<span style="color:brown">(Talk with me)</span>]]</sup> 21:36, 13 November 2026 (IST)

		:Thanks and I appreciate your Efforts my friend!
		:the Article relies on Following sources-
		:Arash Mehrdad Farzan an Iranian Researcher's research Paper "An Indian-Origin Ayatollah: The First Indian Dean in the Hawza of Qom and His Recognition as a Mujtahid by Eight Grand Ayatollahs (1999)" 9 page significant coverage Research Paper by an Independent Author with DOI.
		:Hassan Al- Musawi's 2022 book [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL62675026M/Contemporary_Shia_Religious_Leadership_in_the_Indian_Diaspora ''Contemporary Shia Religious Leadership in the Indian Diaspora'']. Published in 2 Iraqi Cities, Najaf and Karbala, by Dar al-Thaqalayn Publications. where subject is mentioned independently and briefly on pp. Unit 7, Allamah Maulana Syed Hasan Imam, Page 49 to Page 57. Open Library ID [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL62675026M 62675026M].
		:Daily Urdu Newspaper The Inquilab, which was established in 1938 even before independence, not only covers Subject 4 times in different articles
		:Matthias Falkenberger a German Engineer's book in 2026 [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL62675024M/The_Family_of_Masters ''The Family of Masters'']. published in Frankfurt am Main, [[Germany]]: by Falkenberger Verlag. Subject is mentioned at pp. Chapter no 12- Syed Hasan Imam Rizvi Zangipuri, Page 70 to Page 110. Open Library ID [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL62675024M 62675024M].
		:Maimuna Adabeyo, Nigerian Researcher's 2008 research paper- [https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.24040626 Ayatollah Syed Hasan Imam Rizvi: Religious Leadership and the Institutional Structure of Hawzah-e-Ilmiya Sahibe Zamaan in Qom, Iran]. is also Independent with DOI.
		:Maulana Syed Ahmed Afghanistani a teacher in Iran and locally known Cleric's 1995 book. [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL62675031M/Qom_Ke_Ayyam ''Qom Ke Ayyam'']. published in Qom, Iran and later even published in Dasht-e Barchi, District 13, Kabul, Afghanistan: Original Publisher: Qom Publications Place of Publication: Qom, Iran Year of Original Publication: 1995 Republished by: Zarr Press Place of Republishing: Dasht-e Barchi, District 13, Kabul, Afghanistan Year of Republishing: 1997. pp. Page 5-6. Open Library ID [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL62675031M 62675031M], Independent Book again.
		:David Michael Cohen's 2024 book [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL62675030M/Religious_Authority_and_Social_Change_among_Twelver_Shia_Communities ''Religious Authority and Social Change among Twelver Shia Communities'']. Published in New York, United States by Meridian Scholarly Publications. Covers Subject in pp. Ayatollah Syed Hasan Imam Rizvi, Page 109 to Page 130. Open Library ID [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL62675030M 62675030M].
		:Syed Abbas Naqvi relative of known cleric Syed Zameer Akhtar Naqvi's 2023. [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL62675025M/Ulama_of_the_Indian_Subcontinent_Biographical_Profiles_and_Intellectual_Traditions ''Ulama of the Indian Subcontinent: Biographical Profiles and Intellectual Traditions'']. published in Karachi, Pakistan by Maktaba-e-Tahqiq, Pakistan. pp. Section 19, covers subject in Naqeeb-ul-Millat Ayatollah Syed Hasan Imam Rizvi, Page 127 to Page 149. Open Library ID [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL62675025M 62675025M].
		:Dr Robert Levesque an American Professor's more than 500 pages book discussing Indian Muslim scholars, 2026 [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL62675032M/Indian_Muslim_Legends ''Indian Muslim Legends: A Comprehensive Historical Encyclopedia of Muslim scholars, Sufis, poets, philosophers, educators and reformers of Indian Sub continent'']. published in Fremont, California, United States, by RL Publishing, USA. covers subject significanly pp. Chapter No 73- Syed Hasan Imam Rizvi, Page 464 to Page 472. :[https://doi.org/10.5281%2Fzenodo.23338154 DOI]. Open Library ID [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL62675032M 62675032M].
		:Moreover Syed Mehdi Jafri in 2023 wrote a whole book of subject's sermons compilation titled- [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL62675029M/Mimbar-e-Mudallal ''Mimbar-e-Mudallal: Sermons and Intellectual Contributions of Syed Hasan Imam Rizvi'']. published in Karachi, Pakistan by Idara-e-Ma'arif Publications. Open Library ID [https://openlibrary.org/books/OL62675029M 62675029M].
		:My Friend and a Good contributor of Bharatpedia Can You explain me that these are NOT INDEPENDENT OR RELAIBLE??? [[User:Shah Syed Muhammad Ali\|Shah Syed Muhammad Ali]] ([[User talk:Shah Syed Muhammad Ali#top\|talk]]) 22:32, 13 November 2026 (IST)
		::First of all, please avoid using AI-generated replies or providing AI-generated sources. Before questioning the deletion nomination, I request that you independently cross-check all the sources. Several of the provided links appear to be inaccessible, including the Open Library references, as shown in my [https://www.pasteboard.co/IeJiDkxMYTXO.jpg screenshot].
		::Please verify whether these books and research papers actually exist and whether their publication details, authorship and contents can be independently confirmed.
		::More importantly, the article still does not demonstrate compliance with Bharatpedia's General Notability Guidelines (GNG). A long list of references does not automatically establish notability. The sources must provide significant coverage of the subject in reliable, independent secondary publications.
		::Please establish this through verifiable evidence rather than simply listing references. My nomination is based on the article's failure to demonstrate notability through reliable, independently verifiable sources. [[User:Editorial Oversight\|<span style="color:#996600">Editorial Oversight</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Editorial Oversight\|<span style="color:brown">(Talk with me)</span>]]</sup> 22:47, 13 November 2026 (IST)
		:Thanks again my friend and I even removed titles and promotional texts from page.
		:guide me what to do next and I humbly request you that if Possible please remove Afd tag [[User:Shah Syed Muhammad Ali\|Shah Syed Muhammad Ali]] ([[User talk:Shah Syed Muhammad Ali#top\|talk]]) 22:41, 13 November 2026 (IST)

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