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			[[File:075a The Bodhisattva meets with Rudraka Ramaputra (28653674022) (cropped).jpg\|thumb\|300x300px\|[[Gautama Buddha]] meets the ascetic Uddaka Rāmaputta (left) in one of the bas-reliefs recounting the stages leading up to [[bodhi\|awakening]], [[Lalitavistara Sūtra#Th Borobudur reliefs\|Lalitavistara]], [[Borobudur Temple Compounds]] 8th and 9th century, first corridor, main wall.]]
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	'''Uddaka Rāmaputta''' ([[Pāli]]; {{~~lang-~~sa\|Udraka Rāmaputra}}) was a sage and teacher of meditation identified by the Buddhist tradition as one of the teachers of [[Gautama Buddha]].<ref>{{cite book\|last=Keown\|first=Damien\|author-link=Damien Keown\|title=A Dictionary of Buddhism\|publisher=[[Oxford University Press]]\|year=2004\|isbn=9780198605607}}</ref> 'Rāmaputta' means 'son of Rāma', who may have been his father or spiritual teacher.<ref name=Wynne/> Uddaka Rāmaputta ~~may have been a [[Jain]],{{cn\|date=April 2020}} and~~ taught refined states of meditation known as the [[Dhyāna in Buddhism\|~~dhyanic~~]] formless attainments (''[[~~Buddhist_cosmology~~#Formless Realm\|arūpa]] [[samāpatti]]'').<ref>{{cite book \|last= Armstrong \|first= Karen \|title= Buddha \|year= 2004 \|publisher= Penguin Books \|location= New York, USA \|isbn= 978-0143034360 \|page=77}}</ref><ref>{{cite book \|last= Eliade \|first= Mircea \|title= Yoga: Immortality and Freedom \|year= 2009 \|publisher= Princeton University Press \|location= New Jersey, USA \|isbn= 978-0691142036 \|page= 162}}</ref><ref>{{cite book\|last=Sumedho\|first=Rewata Dhamma. Foreword by Ajahn\|title=The first discourse of the Buddha : turning the wheel of Dhamma\|year=1998\|publisher=Wisdom Publications\|location=Boston\|isbn=0861711041\|pages=3\|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=Zk6T4B2sYK0C&pg=PA}}</ref><ref name=Wynne/>		'''Uddaka Rāmaputta''' ([[Pāli]]; {{langx\|sa\|Udraka Rāmaputra}}) was a sage and teacher of meditation identified by the Buddhist tradition as one of the teachers of [[Gautama Buddha]].<ref>{{cite book\|last=Keown\|first=Damien\|author-link=Damien Keown\|title=A Dictionary of Buddhism\|publisher=[[Oxford University Press]]\|year=2004\|isbn=9780198605607}}</ref> 'Rāmaputta' means 'son of Rāma', who may have been his father or spiritual teacher.<ref name=Wynne/> Uddaka Rāmaputta taught refined states of meditation known as the [[Dhyāna in Buddhism\|jhāna]] formless attainments (''[[Buddhist cosmology#Formless Realm (Ārūpyadhātu)\|arūpa]] [[samāpatti]]'').<ref>{{cite book \|last= Armstrong \|first= Karen \|title= Buddha \|year= 2004 \|publisher= Penguin Books \|location= New York, USA \|isbn= 978-0143034360 \|page=77}}</ref><ref>{{cite book \|last= Eliade \|first= Mircea \|title= Yoga: Immortality and Freedom \|year= 2009 \|publisher= Princeton University Press \|location= New Jersey, USA \|isbn= 978-0691142036 \|page= 162}}</ref><ref>{{cite book\|last=Sumedho\|first=Rewata Dhamma. Foreword by Ajahn\|title=The first discourse of the Buddha : turning the wheel of Dhamma\|year=1998\|publisher=Wisdom Publications\|location=Boston\|isbn=0861711041\|pages=3\|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=Zk6T4B2sYK0C&pg=PA}}</ref><ref name=Wynne/>

	== Relationship with ~~Gautama~~ Buddha ==		== Relationship with Gotama Buddha ==
	After his [[~~Gautama_Buddha~~#~~Departure_and_ascetic_life~~\|departure]] from his father's court, ~~Gautama~~ Buddha first went to [[~~Alara Kalama\|Ālāra~~ Kālāma]] and after following his method was recognized as having equalled his master.<ref name=Wynne/> ~~Gautama was eager~~ to ~~learn more~~, ~~and~~ chose to ~~depart to~~ search ~~for~~ another teacher rather than accept a position as co-leader of ~~Ālāra~~ Kālāma's community. He found Uddaka Rāmaputta and accepted him as teacher.		After his [[Gautama Buddha#Departure and ascetic life\|departure]] from his father's court, Gotama Buddha first went to [[Āḷāra Kālāma]] and after following his method was recognized as having equalled his master.<ref name=Wynne/> Realizing that the methods he had learned so far would not lead to enlightenment, Gotama chose to leave in search of another teacher rather than accept a position as co-leader of Āḷāra Kālāma's community. He found Uddaka Rāmaputta and accepted him as his teacher.

	While ~~Ālāra~~ Kālāma accepted the Buddha as an equal and asked him to lead his community alongside him, Uddaka Rāmaputta acknowledged the Buddha as his superior and equal to his predecessor, Uddaka Rāma, who had actually attained the "[[Dhyāna in Buddhism#The arūpa āyatanas\|sphere of neither perception nor non-perception]]" (''{{lang\|pi-latn\|nevasaññānāsaññāyatana}}''), which Rāmaputta had not reached.<ref name=Wynne/> Uddaka Rāmaputta asked the Buddha to take sole leadership of his students and community, but the Buddha ~~preferred~~ to ~~travel on~~.<ref name=Wynne/>		While Āḷāra Kālāma accepted the Buddha as an equal and asked him to lead his community alongside him, Uddaka Rāmaputta acknowledged the Buddha as his superior and equal to his predecessor, Uddaka Rāma, who had actually attained the "[[Dhyāna in Buddhism#The arūpa āyatanas\|sphere of neither perception nor non-perception]]" (''{{lang\|pi-latn\|nevasaññānāsaññāyatana}}''), which Rāmaputta had not reached.<ref name=Wynne/> Uddaka Rāmaputta asked the Buddha to take sole leadership of his students and community, but the Buddha, realizing that this method would not lead to complete enlightenment, was not satisfied. He chose not to stay with Uddaka and resumed his wandering to deepen his search.<ref name=Wynne/>

	Following his awakening, the Buddha first thought of Uddaka Rāmaputta as someone who would be able to understand and realize his [[~~dharma~~]], but later learned that Uddaka Rāmaputta had already died by that time.<ref name=dpn>[http://www.palikanon.com/english/pali_names/u/uddaka_raamaputta.htm Dictionary of Pali Names - Uddaka-Rāmaputta]</ref~~> Despite this confidence, in other texts the Buddha disparaged Uddaka Rāmaputta as someone who claimed attainments and understanding without having achieved them for himself.<ref name=dpn/~~>		Following his [[Enlightenment in Buddhism\|awakening]], the Buddha first thought of Uddaka Rāmaputta as someone who would be able to understand and realize his [[Buddhist paths to liberation\|Dhamma]], but later learned that Uddaka Rāmaputta had already died by that time.<ref name=dpn>[http://www.palikanon.com/english/pali_names/u/uddaka_raamaputta.htm Dictionary of Pali Names - Uddaka-Rāmaputta]</ref>

	== Sources and historicity ==		== Sources and historicity ==
	Several [[Sutra\|sutta]]s in the [[Majjhima Nikaya]] contain stories about the Bodhisattva's visits to the two teachers, with the Ariyapariyesana Sutta (MN 26) identified as the likely source of subsequent [[Pali]] versions.<ref name=Wynne/> Parallel stories from several different [[early Buddhist schools]] are preserved in Sanskrit and Chinese, including within the [[Mahāvastu]].<ref name=Wynne/> Other references to Uddaka Rāmaputta are scattered through the four [[Nikaya]]s, with additional mentions in the [[Vinaya]] and the commentaries to the [[Dhammapada]].<ref name=dpn/>		Several [[Sutra\|sutta]]s in the [[Majjhima Nikaya]] contain stories about the Bodhisattva's visits to the two teachers, with the Ariyapariyesana Sutta (MN 26) identified as the likely source of subsequent [[Pali]] versions.<ref name=Wynne/> Parallel stories from several different [[early Buddhist schools]] are preserved in Sanskrit and Chinese, including within the [[Mahāvastu]].<ref name=Wynne/> Other references to Uddaka Rāmaputta are scattered through the four [[Nikaya]]s, with additional mentions in the [[Vinaya]] and the commentaries to the [[Dhammapada]].<ref name=dpn/>

	While [[Andre Bareau]] argued that both Uddaka Rāmaputta and ~~Ālāra~~ Kālāma were fictional creations, later scholars have accepted the possibility that they may have been real historical figures.<ref name=Wynne/> The surviving sources all agree in placing Uddaka Rāmaputta in [[Rajagriha]] during the Buddha's lifetime, despite being drawn from different schools, translations.<ref name=Wynne>Wynne, Alexander. “The Historical Authenticity of Early Buddhist Literature: A Critical Evaluation.” Wiener Zeitschrift Für Die Kunde Südasiens / Vienna Journal of South Asian Studies, vol. 49, 2005, pp. 35–70. JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/24007653. Accessed 13 Apr. 2020.</ref> [[Hsuan Tsang]] also recorded legends in his era that associated Uddaka Rāmaputta with the vicinity of Rajagriha.<ref name=Wynne/> Most traditions have also preserved the distinction between Uddaka Rāmaputta and his father or teacher Uddaka Rāma, but in a few recensions the two figures have been combined.<ref name=Wynne/>		While [[Andre Bareau]] argued that both Uddaka Rāmaputta and Āḷāra Kālāma were fictional creations, later scholars have accepted the possibility that they may have been real historical figures.<ref name=Wynne/> The surviving sources all agree in placing Uddaka Rāmaputta in [[Rajagriha]] during the Buddha's lifetime, despite being drawn from different schools' translations.<ref name=Wynne>Wynne, Alexander. “The Historical Authenticity of Early Buddhist Literature: A Critical Evaluation.” Wiener Zeitschrift Für Die Kunde Südasiens / Vienna Journal of South Asian Studies, vol. 49, 2005, pp. 35–70. JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/24007653. Accessed 13 Apr. 2020.</ref> [[Hsuan Tsang]] also recorded legends in his era that associated Uddaka Rāmaputta with the vicinity of Rajagriha.<ref name=Wynne/> Most traditions have also preserved the distinction between Uddaka Rāmaputta and his father or teacher Uddaka Rāma, but in a few recensions the two figures have been combined.<ref name=Wynne/>

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	'''Uddaka Rāmaputta''' ([[Pāli]]; {{lang-sa\|Udraka Rāmaputra}}) was a sage and teacher of meditation identified by the Buddhist tradition as one of the teachers of [[Gautama Buddha]].<ref>{{cite book\|last=Keown\|first=Damien\|author-link=Damien Keown\|title=A Dictionary of Buddhism\|publisher=[[Oxford University Press]]\|year=2004\|isbn=9780198605607}}</ref> 'Rāmaputta' means 'son of Rāma', who may have been his father or spiritual teacher.<ref name=Wynne/> Uddaka Rāmaputta may have been a [[Jain]]{{cn\|date=April 2020}}, and taught refined states of meditation known as the ~~immaterial~~ attainments or [[Buddhist_cosmology#~~Spatial_cosmology~~\|~~formless realm~~]].<ref>{{cite book \|last= Armstrong \|first= Karen \|title= Buddha \|year= 2004 \|publisher= Penguin Books \|location= New York, USA \|isbn= 978-0143034360 \|page=77 }}</ref><ref>{{cite book \|last= Eliade \|first= Mircea \|title= Yoga: Immortality and Freedom \|year= 2009 \|publisher= Princeton University Press \|location= New Jersey, USA \|isbn= 978-0691142036 \|page= 162}}</ref><ref>{{cite book\|last=Sumedho\|first=Rewata Dhamma. Foreword by Ajahn\|title=The first discourse of the Buddha : turning the wheel of Dhamma\|year=1998\|publisher=Wisdom Publications\|location=Boston\|isbn=0861711041\|pages=3\|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=Zk6T4B2sYK0C&pg=PA}}</ref><ref name=Wynne/>		'''Uddaka Rāmaputta''' ([[Pāli]]; {{lang-sa\|Udraka Rāmaputra}}) was a sage and teacher of meditation identified by the Buddhist tradition as one of the teachers of [[Gautama Buddha]].<ref>{{cite book\|last=Keown\|first=Damien\|author-link=Damien Keown\|title=A Dictionary of Buddhism\|publisher=[[Oxford University Press]]\|year=2004\|isbn=9780198605607}}</ref> 'Rāmaputta' means 'son of Rāma', who may have been his father or spiritual teacher.<ref name=Wynne/> Uddaka Rāmaputta may have been a [[Jain]],{{cn\|date=April 2020}} and taught refined states of meditation known as the [[Dhyāna in Buddhism\|dhyanic]] formless attainments (''[[Buddhist_cosmology#Formless Realm\|arūpa]] [[samāpatti]]'').<ref>{{cite book \|last= Armstrong \|first= Karen \|title= Buddha \|year= 2004 \|publisher= Penguin Books \|location= New York, USA \|isbn= 978-0143034360 \|page=77}}</ref><ref>{{cite book \|last= Eliade \|first= Mircea \|title= Yoga: Immortality and Freedom \|year= 2009 \|publisher= Princeton University Press \|location= New Jersey, USA \|isbn= 978-0691142036 \|page= 162}}</ref><ref>{{cite book\|last=Sumedho\|first=Rewata Dhamma. Foreword by Ajahn\|title=The first discourse of the Buddha : turning the wheel of Dhamma\|year=1998\|publisher=Wisdom Publications\|location=Boston\|isbn=0861711041\|pages=3\|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=Zk6T4B2sYK0C&pg=PA}}</ref><ref name=Wynne/>

			== Relationship with Gautama Buddha ==
	After his [[Gautama_Buddha#Departure_and_ascetic_life\|departure]] from his father's court, Gautama Buddha first went to [[Alara Kalama\|Ālāra Kālāma]] and after following his method was recognized as having equalled his master.<ref name=Wynne/> Gautama was eager to learn more, and chose to depart to search for another teacher rather than accept a position as co-leader of Ālāra Kālāma's community. He found Uddaka Rāmaputta and accepted him as teacher.		After his [[Gautama_Buddha#Departure_and_ascetic_life\|departure]] from his father's court, Gautama Buddha first went to [[Alara Kalama\|Ālāra Kālāma]] and after following his method was recognized as having equalled his master.<ref name=Wynne/> Gautama was eager to learn more, and chose to depart to search for another teacher rather than accept a position as co-leader of Ālāra Kālāma's community. He found Uddaka Rāmaputta and accepted him as teacher.

	While Ālāra Kālāma accepted the Buddha as an equal and asked him to lead his community alongside him, Uddaka Rāmaputta acknowledged the Buddha as his superior and equal to his predecessor, Uddaka Rāma, who had actually attained the "sphere of neither perception nor non-perception," which Rāmaputta had not reached.<ref name=Wynne/> Uddaka Rāmaputta asked the Buddha to take sole leadership of his students and community, but the Buddha preferred to travel on.<ref name=Wynne/>		While Ālāra Kālāma accepted the Buddha as an equal and asked him to lead his community alongside him, Uddaka Rāmaputta acknowledged the Buddha as his superior and equal to his predecessor, Uddaka Rāma, who had actually attained the "[[Dhyāna in Buddhism#The arūpa āyatanas\|sphere of neither perception nor non-perception]]" (''{{lang\|pi-latn\|nevasaññānāsaññāyatana}}''), which Rāmaputta had not reached.<ref name=Wynne/> Uddaka Rāmaputta asked the Buddha to take sole leadership of his students and community, but the Buddha preferred to travel on.<ref name=Wynne/>

	Following his awakening, the Buddha first thought of Uddaka Rāmaputta as someone who would be able to understand and realize his [[~~Dharma~~]], but ~~he realized~~ that Uddaka Rāmaputta had already died.<ref name=dpn>[http://www.palikanon.com/english/pali_names/u/uddaka_raamaputta.htm Dictionary of Pali Names - Uddaka-Rāmaputta]</ref> Despite this confidence, in other texts the Buddha disparaged Uddaka Rāmaputta as someone who claimed attainments and understanding without having achieved them for himself.<ref name=dpn/>		Following his awakening, the Buddha first thought of Uddaka Rāmaputta as someone who would be able to understand and realize his [[dharma]], but later learned that Uddaka Rāmaputta had already died by that time.<ref name=dpn>[http://www.palikanon.com/english/pali_names/u/uddaka_raamaputta.htm Dictionary of Pali Names - Uddaka-Rāmaputta]</ref> Despite this confidence, in other texts the Buddha disparaged Uddaka Rāmaputta as someone who claimed attainments and understanding without having achieved them for himself.<ref name=dpn/>

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'''Uddaka Rāmaputta''' ([[Pāli]]; {{lang-sa|Udraka Rāmaputra}}) was a sage and teacher of meditation identified by the Buddhist tradition as one of the teachers of [[Gautama Buddha]].<ref>{{cite book|last=Keown|first=Damien|author-link=Damien Keown|title=A Dictionary of Buddhism|publisher=[[Oxford University Press]]|year=2004|isbn=9780198605607}}</ref> 'Rāmaputta' means 'son of Rāma', who may have been his father or spiritual teacher.<ref name=Wynne/> Uddaka Rāmaputta may have been a [[Jain]]{{cn|date=April 2020}}, and taught refined states of meditation known as the immaterial attainments or [[Buddhist_cosmology#Spatial_cosmology|formless realm]].<ref>{{cite book |last= Armstrong |first= Karen |title= Buddha |year= 2004 |publisher= Penguin Books |location= New York, USA |isbn= 978-0143034360 |page=77 }}</ref><ref>{{cite book |last= Eliade |first= Mircea |title= Yoga: Immortality and Freedom |year= 2009 |publisher= Princeton University Press |location= New Jersey, USA |isbn= 978-0691142036 |page= 162}}</ref><ref>{{cite book|last=Sumedho|first=Rewata Dhamma. Foreword by Ajahn|title=The first discourse of the Buddha : turning the wheel of Dhamma|year=1998|publisher=Wisdom Publications|location=Boston|isbn=0861711041|pages=3|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=Zk6T4B2sYK0C&pg=PA}}</ref><ref name=Wynne/>

After his [[Gautama_Buddha#Departure_and_ascetic_life|departure]] from his father's court, Gautama Buddha first went to [[Alara Kalama|Ālāra Kālāma]] and after following his method was recognized as having equalled his master.<ref name=Wynne/> Gautama was eager to learn more, and chose to depart to search for another teacher rather than accept a position as co-leader of Ālāra Kālāma's community. He found Uddaka Rāmaputta and accepted him as teacher.

While Ālāra Kālāma accepted the Buddha as an equal and asked him to lead his community alongside him, Uddaka Rāmaputta acknowledged the Buddha as his superior and equal to his predecessor, Uddaka Rāma, who had actually attained the "sphere of neither perception nor non-perception," which Rāmaputta had not reached.<ref name=Wynne/> Uddaka Rāmaputta asked the Buddha to take sole leadership of his students and community, but the Buddha preferred to travel on.<ref name=Wynne/>

Following his awakening, the Buddha first thought of Uddaka Rāmaputta as someone who would be able to understand and realize his [[Dharma]], but he realized that Uddaka Rāmaputta had already died.<ref name=dpn>[http://www.palikanon.com/english/pali_names/u/uddaka_raamaputta.htm Dictionary of Pali Names - Uddaka-Rāmaputta]</ref> Despite this confidence, in other texts the Buddha disparaged Uddaka Rāmaputta as someone who claimed attainments and understanding without having achieved them for himself.<ref name=dpn/>

== Sources and historicity ==
Several [[Sutra|sutta]]s in the [[Majjhima Nikaya]] contain stories about the Bodhisattva's visits to the two teachers, with the Ariyapariyesana Sutta (MN 26) identified as the likely source of subsequent [[Pali]] versions.<ref name=Wynne/> Parallel stories from several different [[early Buddhist schools]] are preserved in Sanskrit and Chinese, including within the [[Mahāvastu]].<ref name=Wynne/> Other references to Uddaka Rāmaputta are scattered through the four [[Nikaya]]s, with additional mentions in the [[Vinaya]] and the commentaries to the [[Dhammapada]].<ref name=dpn/>

While [[Andre Bareau]] argued that both Uddaka Rāmaputta and Ālāra Kālāma were fictional creations, later scholars have accepted the possibility that they may have been real historical figures.<ref name=Wynne/> The surviving sources all agree in placing Uddaka Rāmaputta in [[Rajagriha]] during the Buddha's lifetime, despite being drawn from different schools, translations.<ref name=Wynne>Wynne, Alexander. “The Historical Authenticity of Early Buddhist Literature: A Critical Evaluation.” Wiener Zeitschrift Für Die Kunde Südasiens / Vienna Journal of South Asian Studies, vol. 49, 2005, pp. 35–70. JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/24007653. Accessed 13 Apr. 2020.</ref> [[Hsuan Tsang]] also recorded legends in his era that associated Uddaka Rāmaputta with the vicinity of Rajagriha.<ref name=Wynne/> Most traditions have also preserved the distinction between Uddaka Rāmaputta and his father or teacher Uddaka Rāma, but in a few recensions the two figures have been combined.<ref name=Wynne/>

==References==
{{Reflist}}

[[Category:Early Buddhism]]
[[Category:Indian yogis]]
[[Category:Indian yoga teachers]]

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