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:''The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify this page.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as [[{{TALKPAGENAME}}|this nomination's talk page]], [[Talk:{{SUBPAGENAME}}|the article's talk page]] or [[Wikipedia talk:Did you know]]), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. '''No further edits should be made to this page'''.''

The result was: '''promoted''' by [[User:Keilana|Keilana]]|<sup>[[User talk:Keilana|Parlez ici]]</sup> 20:48, 26 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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====Jabali Upanishad====
{{DYK nompage links|nompage=Jabali Upanishad|Jabali Upanishad}}
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[[File:Halebid3.JPG|100x100px|Trinity of Gods Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva]]
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* ... <s>that the '''[[Jabali Upanishad]]''' explains the significance of the three sacred streaks drawn with [[Vibhuti|ash]] and their personification with the [[Trimurti|trinity]] ''(pictured)'' of [[Brahma]], [[Vishnu]] and [[Shiva]]?</s>

:* ''Reviewed'': [[Template:Did you know nominations/Dactylotrochus]]
<small>Created by [[User:Nvvchar|Nvvchar]] ([[User talk:Nvvchar|talk]]). Self-nominated at 14:03, 10 June 2015 (UTC).</small>

:* [[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] QPQ, hook is an appropriate length, the article is new, and I don't see any problems with the text (Dup check with the only online source passes, and I must assume good faith that the article does not copy/paraphrase the offline refs). The only problem with this hook is that the article [[Brahma]] is poorly referenced and also has a tag that it may contain original research. Such articles should not be featured on the main page (even if they are not the main article in the hook). Can you propose a different hook? Or at least change the hook to avoid a link to [[Brahma]]. [[User:AHeneen|AHeneen]] ([[User talk:AHeneen|talk]]) 01:07, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
::*{{ping|AHeneen}} Thanks for the review. I was not aware of this rule. I am suggesting the following ALT1 hook with a different image.
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[[File:Portrait_of_Sivaya_Subramuniyaswami_AS.jpg|100x100px|Portrait of a person wearing the Bhasma (holy ash)]]
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'''ALT1''' hook ... <s>that according to '''[[Jabali Upanishad]]''' smearing of the holy [[Vibhuti|Bhasma]] by a person ''(pictured with holy ash on the forehead)'', whether he is a celibate [[Brahmacharya|brahamachari]] or [[Ascetic|renouncer]], gives him the authority to worship all the divine beings?</s> --'''[[User talk:Nvvchar|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#003366">Nvvchar</span>]]'''. 04:22, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

:A couple adjustments to the hook:
:*Use one term for "holy [[Bhasma]]" and "holy ash". I suggest using "[[Bhasma|holy ash]]", which is a link to Bhasma.
:*The hook length is within the 200 character limit, excluding "(pictured with holy ash on the forehead)". Can the caption just be limited to "(pictured)"?
:*The source says "whether he is a Brahamachari or Sanyasi". Is sanyasi the same as a renouncer? Should the Hindu terms be used (Brahamachari & Sanyasi)? Or translations, like "celibate Brahamachari" and "renouncer"?
:*It could be: ... that according to the '''[[Jabali Upanishad]]''', smearing of [[Bhasma|holy ash]] by a [[Brahmacharya|brahamachari]] or [[sannyasa|sanyasi]] on their forehead ''(pictured)'' gives him the authority to worship all the divine beings?
:[[User:AHeneen|AHeneen]] ([[User talk:AHeneen|talk]]) 22:27, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
::*{{ping|AHeneen}} Thanks. I defer to your suggestions. I propose this '''ALT2''' hook ... that according to the '''[[Jabali Upanishad]]''', smearing of [[Bhasma|holy ash]] by a [[Brahmacharya|brahamachari]] or [[sannyasa|sanyasi]] on their forehead ''(pictured)'' gives him the authority to worship all the divine beings? --'''[[User talk:Nvvchar|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#003366">Nvvchar</span>]]'''. 23:59, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
:::*[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] [[User:AHeneen|AHeneen]] ([[User talk:AHeneen|talk]]) 00:27, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
* [[File:Symbol possible vote.svg|16px]] The hook is ungrammatical, whose forehead is smeared and who is being referred to by "their" and "him"? [[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]] ([[User talk:Gatoclass|talk]]) 07:05, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
::Thanks for noticing that! "Him" should be changed to "them" and "the" could be added before "smearing", making:
:::'''ALT2''' (corrected) ... <s>that according to the '''[[Jabali Upanishad]]''', the smearing of [[Bhasma|holy ash]] by a [[Brahmacharya|brahamachari]] or [[sannyasa|sanyasi]] on their forehead ''(pictured)'' gives them the authority to worship all the divine beings?</s>
::Their & them refer to brahamachari/sanyasi. [[User:AHeneen|AHeneen]] ([[User talk:AHeneen|talk]]) 13:15, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
::* I am suggesting '''ALT3''' hook ... <s>that according to the '''[[Jabali Upanishad]]''', the smearing of holy ash on the forehead ''(pictured)'' gives a [[Brahmacharya|brahamachari]] or [[sanyasi]] the authority to worship all the divine beings?</s> --'''[[User talk:Nvvchar|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#003366">Nvvchar</span>]]'''. 20:25, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
{{od}}[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] '''ALT3'''...it addresses the ambiguity concerns better than the corrected ALT2 I suggested above. [[User:AHeneen|AHeneen]] ([[User talk:AHeneen|talk]]) 13:31, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
* [[File:Symbol possible vote.svg|16px]] ALT3 looks fine except for the word "authority" which isn't quite accurate. The source says "fit" which isn't quite the same thing. I'm trying to think of an appropriate substitute for "fit" but haven't come up with one yet. [[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]] ([[User talk:Gatoclass|talk]]) 21:24, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
:{{yo|Gatoclass}} maybe remove the word? [[User:Victuallers|Victuallers]] ([[User talk:Victuallers|talk]]) 21:51, 21 July 2015 (UTC) '''ALT4''' hook ... <s>that according to the '''[[Jabali Upanishad]]''', the smearing of holy ash on the forehead ''(pictured)'' allows a [[Brahmacharya|brahamachari]] or [[sanyasi]] to worship all the divine beings</s>?
* It still doesn't look quite right to me, and I'm struggling to come up with an alternative. Perhaps we should go with a totally different hook instead. How about:
*'''ALT5:''' ... that the '''[[Jabali Upanishad]]''' explains the significance of the three sacred streaks of ash drawn across the forehead of a [[Brahmacharya|brahamachari]] or [[sanyasi]]? [[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]] ([[User talk:Gatoclass|talk]]) 03:35, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
:*That is fine with me.--'''[[User talk:Nvvchar|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#003366">Nvvchar</span>]]'''. 13:11, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
::: {{u|Victuallers}}, any chance you could review alt5? [[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]] ([[User talk:Gatoclass|talk]]) 02:42, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
:::: {{u|Gatoclass}} - not obvious to me .. I can't find the word "sanyasi" in the article to find the ref.... and brahamachari is used in a sentence that confirms one odf the earlier alts. Could you pick an alt that is a reffed sentence in the article and then ping me? [[User:Victuallers|Victuallers]] ([[User talk:Victuallers|talk]]) 08:26, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
::::: {{u|Victuallers}}, I corrected the article to point to the correct links, could you try again please? [[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]] ([[User talk:Gatoclass|talk]]) 02:31, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] '''Alt 5 only''' That does it. Thanks to all. [[User:Victuallers|Victuallers]] ([[User talk:Victuallers|talk]]) 16:10, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
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